Monday, March 15, 2010

How Does It Harm Marriage Exactly, Dude?

Oct 15th, 20092009-10-15T16:39:29ZM jS, Y | By Hahn at Home | Read more in: GLBTQ

We’ve been asking the question for a while.  How would my gay marriage hurt you, the straight married person?  Now, we’re not alone in asking the same thing.

“The unusual exchange between U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn Walker and Charles Cooper, a lawyer for the group that sponsored Proposition 8, came during a hearing on a lawsuit challenging the measure as discriminatory under the U.S. Constitution.vaughn_walker

Cooper had asked Walker to throw out the suit or make it more difficult for those civil rights claims to prevail.”

The judge not only refused but signaled that when the case goes to trial in January, he expects Cooper and his legal team to present evidence showing that male-female marriages would be undermined if same-sex marriages were legal.

The question is relevant to the assertion that Proposition 8 is constitutionally valid because it furthers the states goal of fostering “naturally procreative relationships,” Walker explained.

“What is the harm to the procreation purpose you outlined of allowing same-sex couples to get married?” Walker asked.

“My answer is, I don’t know. I don’t know,” Cooper answered. ~ MSNBC

There is, apparently, more than one way to skin a cat.

Regardless of the belief on the part of some in the right wing that so-called radical leftist judges legislate from the bench, this is a case in point of what a judge is supposed to do.  Raise the questions that are relevant to the underlying assertion that denying rights based on tradition or a set of rules outlined in a non-secular document (the Bible, for example) and adhered to by only a specific subset of  the religious should determine what liberties should be enjoyed by another human citizen of our country.  Cut through the rhetoric.  Call out nonsensical for what it is.

I think this is our next best chance at validating our equality.  And, I love that the anti-gay marriage attorney came so ill-prepared.  Reminds me of that yokel who represented Attorney General Jerry Brown, sadly for our side, at the appeal last spring.

But, it will be a long road, even if we prevail.  One that will end up in the Supreme Court – and that is what scares me most.

Lori Hahn
AWOP contributing editor, GLBTQ
Author of Hahn at Home
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  1. Thanks for this, Lori.

    I think he does know the answer: the heterosexual male power structure gets undermined when gay marriage is allowed. Historically, heterosexual marriage has not been a democratic institution (i.e., lovely laws about being able to beat a wife with an object “no bigger than a thumb”–where the “rule of thumb” expression came from).

    What happens to the power structure when there is no man in a marriage of two people? Similarly, what happens when there is no “little woman” in a marriage of two men? Also, when wealth is inherited through a marriage of two women, or children born, where will the male privilege be? Who will scrub the toilets or make the meals? Who will stay home with the children? It’s SO much easier to just keep marriage between men and women, and less threatening to the social order. Plus, if marriage between women is allowed, whose to say all the men won’t be left single and alone? :) (just kidding on that one)

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  2. P.S. I was being sarcastic…
    Also I looked up the “rule of thumb” law. On Wikipedia (which has very conservative
    editors–they reject anti-Sarah Palin and George Bush content) they say this was a
    “myth,” while Del Martin mentioned it several times in her writings. In US History there
    is some evidence that the law about beating your wife with nothing wider than a thumb
    did exist. Hard to know.

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  3. Marriage is hurt because it is no longer special, just like a country club is no longer special when you let Jews or Blacks in.

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  4. That is a very good point–if it’s not exclusive (some are left out), then
    what does it mean, anyway?

    Also, there’s the slippery-slope argument…if we “let” this happen, then
    people will start wanting to marry their pets, or siblings. Yeah, I guess
    the words “consenting (human) adults” don’t mean anything!!! :)

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