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		<title>By: Gay Couples Get Hit in the Pocketbook. Repeatedly. &#124; Magnetic Fire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gay Couples Get Hit in the Pocketbook. Repeatedly. &#124; Magnetic Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://aworldofprogress.com/gay-couples-get-hit-in-the-pocketbook-repeatedly/      This entry was posted on Saturday, October 24th, 2009 at 6:29 pm and is filed under Blog Posts. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!! Shoulda previewed! Meant to say &quot;....Marriage Law to remain...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!! Shoulda previewed! Meant to say &#8220;&#8230;.Marriage Law to remain&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
		<link>http://aworldofprogress.com/gay-couples-get-hit-in-the-pocketbook-repeatedly/comment-page-1/#comment-1983</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob P...I should have mentioned the tax situation, thanks.  I&#039;ve been a silent partner in several small-medium concerns since retiring and the one real problem I encountered tax-wise WAS the company I funded for a former tenant, mother, lesbian and her partner. It was a real hassle AND grossly unjust. I&#039;ve since turned over my interest to them and they&#039;re going strong. It&#039;s a &#039;Total Needs Contractor &amp; Building&#039; company. They&#039;re REALLY hoping for the rest of us here to support them in the Prop 1 vote. A NO vote is for keeping the Gay Marriage Law remain on the books and become effective. Much like CA Prop 8.

The biggest opponents are the same as in CA mainly, they even hired the same ad company which used the same ads from CA &amp; just changed some of the people in them, but the background &#039;couples&#039; are the same in all. Guess they moved to Maine.

As usual, the &#039;anti&#039; folks consist of a bunch of groups claiming religious affiliation and the spokesMEN are mostly VERY effeminate. Kinda makes you wonder if they&#039;re afraid to &#039;come out&#039;. Some are married, but the ones I know personally have what appear to be marriages of convenience to extremely &#039;pious&#039; women. Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob P&#8230;I should have mentioned the tax situation, thanks.  I&#8217;ve been a silent partner in several small-medium concerns since retiring and the one real problem I encountered tax-wise WAS the company I funded for a former tenant, mother, lesbian and her partner. It was a real hassle AND grossly unjust. I&#8217;ve since turned over my interest to them and they&#8217;re going strong. It&#8217;s a &#8216;Total Needs Contractor &amp; Building&#8217; company. They&#8217;re REALLY hoping for the rest of us here to support them in the Prop 1 vote. A NO vote is for keeping the Gay Marriage Law remain on the books and become effective. Much like CA Prop 8.</p>
<p>The biggest opponents are the same as in CA mainly, they even hired the same ad company which used the same ads from CA &amp; just changed some of the people in them, but the background &#8216;couples&#8217; are the same in all. Guess they moved to Maine.</p>
<p>As usual, the &#8216;anti&#8217; folks consist of a bunch of groups claiming religious affiliation and the spokesMEN are mostly VERY effeminate. Kinda makes you wonder if they&#8217;re afraid to &#8216;come out&#8217;. Some are married, but the ones I know personally have what appear to be marriages of convenience to extremely &#8216;pious&#8217; women. Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Velvet Blade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Velvet Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another example of the mass discrimination, Bob. Thanks for adding this as it&#039;s a very important addition. Any &quot;right&quot; or &quot;benefit&quot; based solely on marital status should be inclusive of same-sex couples.

My partner and I are also planning several business ventures together and quadrupling (or more) paperwork and accounting hasn&#039;t been a part of our discussions. Now it will be.

It&#039;s discrimination. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another example of the mass discrimination, Bob. Thanks for adding this as it&#8217;s a very important addition. Any &#8220;right&#8221; or &#8220;benefit&#8221; based solely on marital status should be inclusive of same-sex couples.</p>
<p>My partner and I are also planning several business ventures together and quadrupling (or more) paperwork and accounting hasn&#8217;t been a part of our discussions. Now it will be.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s discrimination. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Velvet Blade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Velvet Blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thus I am still a &quot;recovering&quot; Catholic, having been raised German Roman Catholic. What&#039;s that mean? It means I had a grandmother (since passed) who had a shrine to the Pope, and slept for decades... yes DECADES... as if she were placed in her coffin. Didn&#039;t make her a better person...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thus I am still a &#8220;recovering&#8221; Catholic, having been raised German Roman Catholic. What&#8217;s that mean? It means I had a grandmother (since passed) who had a shrine to the Pope, and slept for decades&#8230; yes DECADES&#8230; as if she were placed in her coffin. Didn&#8217;t make her a better person&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope things change soon!  It just isn&#039;t right....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope things change soon!  It just isn&#8217;t right&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob P, GayMarriageTruth.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob P, GayMarriageTruth.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!

One issue that is frequently overlooked in this discussion, aside from the usual issues of regular taxes, taxed DP health benefits, higher tax rates, etc., is the issue of same sex couples who own businesses together. 

There are little known laws on the books that allow married couples who own a sole-proprietorship to take advantage of tax loopholes to minimize taxes. As a couple in California who is legally married (one of the lucky &quot;18K&quot;) not only do we get screwed by the above mentioned double bookkeeping and massive overload of paperwork to file multiple copies of tax forms every year, but since we actually own and operate a business together it is even more difficult. We literally have to identify every single penny earned by the company and link it to one or the other of us, so we can put it on the correct Federal tax return, putting an onerous burden on us throughout the year. 

Personally, I am still shocked and amazed that anyone, much less a President who claims to be a Constitutional Scholar, can support in any way the travesty known as DOMA when it CLEARLY violates every principle of the &quot;Full Faith and Credit&quot; clause of the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!</p>
<p>One issue that is frequently overlooked in this discussion, aside from the usual issues of regular taxes, taxed DP health benefits, higher tax rates, etc., is the issue of same sex couples who own businesses together. </p>
<p>There are little known laws on the books that allow married couples who own a sole-proprietorship to take advantage of tax loopholes to minimize taxes. As a couple in California who is legally married (one of the lucky &#8220;18K&#8221;) not only do we get screwed by the above mentioned double bookkeeping and massive overload of paperwork to file multiple copies of tax forms every year, but since we actually own and operate a business together it is even more difficult. We literally have to identify every single penny earned by the company and link it to one or the other of us, so we can put it on the correct Federal tax return, putting an onerous burden on us throughout the year. </p>
<p>Personally, I am still shocked and amazed that anyone, much less a President who claims to be a Constitutional Scholar, can support in any way the travesty known as DOMA when it CLEARLY violates every principle of the &#8220;Full Faith and Credit&#8221; clause of the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
		<link>http://aworldofprogress.com/gay-couples-get-hit-in-the-pocketbook-repeatedly/comment-page-1/#comment-1977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me even more irate every time I see another group of so-called &#039;Christians&#039; using their church&#039;s tax exempt status while railing against equal &amp; fair treatment for ALL couples who opt for sharing their lives with each other. In my eyes, the hypocracy factor among some religious assosiations is far worse than you&#039;ll find in even the most jaded legislative bodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me even more irate every time I see another group of so-called &#8216;Christians&#8217; using their church&#8217;s tax exempt status while railing against equal &amp; fair treatment for ALL couples who opt for sharing their lives with each other. In my eyes, the hypocracy factor among some religious assosiations is far worse than you&#8217;ll find in even the most jaded legislative bodies.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucia Olson</title>
		<link>http://aworldofprogress.com/gay-couples-get-hit-in-the-pocketbook-repeatedly/comment-page-1/#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me mad!!!</description>
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